Tulsa World: Outlet Mall Revenue v. Projection

Storms leave city of Stroud strapped

Like other centers in the outlet industry, business had dropped off.

At the end of October, sales in outlet center stores open at least a year had dropped almost 2 percent nationwide, according to Value Retail News.

In Stroud, about eight of the 53 stores were not in operation at the time of the tornado.

“Guess, Levi’s and the golf shop had left recently,” Maddux said. Another store was considering leaving, he said.

When the mall was announced, Tanger estimated the facility would generate $1.5 million in annual sales taxes for Stroud.

But the city has never seen figures that high.

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City of Tulsa: Southwest Tulsa Planning

In 1988 the City published the Master Drainage Plan for Southwest Tulsa, and in 1994 voter approved 2.89 million for bridge improvements and flood control measures on Mooser Creek. The citizens later participated in the Mooser Creek Greenway plan. The genesis of the project included public involvement and a final plan with a schedule of tasks and a budget. The plan proposes a greenway along Mooser Creek that would prevent flooding , preserve floodplains and wildlife habitat, restore water quality, improve property values, and help meet the areas future transportation, recreation and educational needs. ( Mooser Creek Greenway plan pg.1-2 ).

As recommended in the Comprehensive Plan for the city, Mooser Creek Greenway will link together the watershed’s major recreation areas and facilities, including Turkey Mountain. A multi-purpose trail on the south side of Mooser main stream will connect with the River Parks’ system on the west bank of the Arkansas River. Nature trails will link Page Belcher and West Highlands Park with Lubell Park, Bales Park, and the YMCA Camp via the public and private school. The Greenway trails will allow citizens to access the watersheds many educational opportunities and institutions.

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Tulsa Voice: A closer look at potential retail development

Digging in

A closer look at the potential retail development near Turkey Mountain

“There’s enough property all over Tulsa – even abandoned properties – that could be utilized,” Baroni said.

“Why destroy something that we already hold precious, instead of … taking something else that’s not worth anything and making it better?” Reese said. “We’re rotting from the inside; why don’t we fix the rot on the inside before we build more on the outside?” 

Robert Alexander – Simon’s senior vice president of mall leasing and the person who made the initial announcement – said, “We have every intention of building the project, but we’re not a hundred percent there yet.

“It’s a little awkward, because we don’t really disclose the status of our active deals until they’re closed, and this deal’s not closed, …” Alexander said. “We’re not ready to close on the land and break ground yet.” Alexander was not familiar with Turkey Mountain or any controversy related to the project. He directed us to Simon spokesperson Les Morris.

Morris said he was familiar with the area – “Turkey Mountain? Turkey Hill?” – and the controversy. He said although the dissenters are determined, “there’s obviously the silent majority … of people who are really in support of this type of project in terms of economic benefit for the city. So I don’t know that I would term it controversial, but yeah, I’m aware of what’s going on.”

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Forgotten Malls of Tulsa

Forgotten Malls of Tulsa

Truly–do we need any more new retail stores in Tulsa? Could we not use facilities we already have? Check out this page, which has links to several good articles.

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Turkey Mountain, that you cannot see from home or the road.

taken from the proposed site of a parking lot
Some pictures of Turkey Mountain other than what the TV stations show.

 

I have noticed that in all of the TV stories on Turkey Mountain, the video is always of the main trail head, or from the upper parking lot, and sometimes by the outlet mall plot. That’s where the camera crew park their truck, and heaven forbid they venture into the woods to actually see how awesome these trailz are.

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